Disclaimer: This post is written by me as a CDO user and is only with my views of the issues descriped. It is not that off the Staff in any way.
While running the just finished Artisan’s Contest XVI, I had my first logins to the user Staff (where we cast votes). Locking at your entries, votes and how stuff looks behind the scenes. I was also logged into the Golden Hat user. A nice way of getting some CDO history as well.
By mere coincidence I noticed some users votes for themselves during the competition. And then while browsing the old competitions, I noticed that this is a general thing.
Let’s make it clear however, that it’s not against the competition rules to self-vote, but it is “generally frowned upon”. Well with my new knowledge of the extend of self-voting - this thread is me generally frowning! And after that making some suggestions.
Extend of self-voting
Not against the rules for sure, but I just personally had an idea that it wasn’t done. Yet it’s done more than I could imagine. In Golden Hat XX just over 1/3 of the participants self-voted. With nearly 20 entries and roughly 35 people casting votes that is a lot.
Why it’s a problem
In our competitions the top entries is often very close in votes, with 4th and 5ft places often missing one or two votes. Voting for ones own entry presents two problems as I see it.
- You are raising your entry above your competition and that 1 vote can be crucial to the final results.
What makes me sad
I enter competitions in order to push my skills, to be creative and make something that makes my fellow hobbyists go “wow! That’s genius!”. And I have never felt bad about losing to my peers - because their entries have obviously been better. And I like my fellow Dawi Zharr.
But CDO is a community build upon a great and helpful spirit. Everywhere people get constructive criticism and good words on their projects and ideas. It’s sad if this is not the case with competitions. I can vote for and acknowledge the work of three of my fellow hobbyist. Even if I tried being objective and looked at my own entries as best - I would never vote for myself. It makes me sad to see hard working guys, with veteran medals, never winning and never voting in their own favor. Would people also vote for them self in the “Yearly Member Medals” polls?
Because summarizing my above points: I find self-voting to be bad sportsmanship and ungentlemanly conduct - despite not being against the rules. And a medal ain’t worth that to me.
I ain’t losing no respect for my fellow members and hobbyist. And there are some arguments for why self-voting is okay.
- It’s not against the rules. Absolutely right - only frowned upon.
- It’s common practice in a democracy for people to put their vote on them self. Yes. Yet this is not politics. This is a hobby community, for people to help and inspire each other.
- It’s a competition - it’s about winning. Anybody could do it. That’s absolutely right. I could vote for myself, but I don’t want to do that. I want something else from the competitions.
This is a large wall of text. Based on my above points. I would like to suggest a changing of the rules from the current rubber sentence “voting for yourself is not against the rules - but generally frowned upon”. And change it to “you are not allowed to vote for yourself - this is about showing appreciation of your fellow hobbyists”. Because I don’t think “generally frowned upon” is good enough, seeing the extend of the issue.
Now I would like to hear your input on the matter, especially from all the hard working members entering our competitions. Please share your thoughts and whether or not you would like the rules changed or kept the same. Depending on your responses, I’ll bring some or the other to the staff section.
The last couple of words
Please keep a civil tone in the following discussion, this is be a sensible issue. Please try and get all your thoughts into one post. I would like to turn this thread into a poll - but first when people have read and written - as to not make a hasty vote.
Please try to refrain from ‘spamming’ your points, as to not get 10 posts in a row between two members. I would like to hear from as many as possible. Agree, disagree.
Thanks for reading. I needed to get it off my chest - at least let my fellow members know. If we don’t change the rules, come the next competition, you might reconsider how you vote. No matter the outcome - I’ll not self-vote.