Yodrin:
I know that this has been posted before regarding Destroyer/Bale-Great Taurus.
But just to sum up an clarify Blazing Body rule
Destroyer: reroll to wound
Bale Taurus: reroll to wound
Great Taurus: -1 to wound
Fireborns: -1 to wound
And, does this mean that Great Taurus has a better chance to survive against canons than Bale Taurus, since its 2 to wound (and reroll to wound)on BT and 3 to wound on GT?
Whats the math on this?
rpitts2004:
Most Recent FAQ
On Page 184 and 185: Replace the Blazing Body rules text with the following:
Any model (friend or foe) in base contact with one or more Bale Taurus or K’daai, except a Chaos Dwarf using it as a mount or another K’daai, takes an automatic Strength 4 hit at the start of the close combat phase. This is a flaming attack.
Additionally, any non Magical attacks must re-roll successfulTo wound rolls.
Fireborn are K’daai so they don’t get the -1 anymore
NoisyAssassin:
Chances of a cannon scoring a wound with the re-roll: about 69.4%
Chances of a cannon scoring a wound with -1 to wound: about 66.7%
So not a huge difference.
Yodrin:
Ok, tnx guys!!!
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Da Crusha:
Most Recent FAQPersonally, and Im mostly alone on this from the times Ive brought it up, I think the first part is specific to the Bale Taurus and k'daais.
On Page 184 and 185: Replace the Blazing Body rules text with the following:
Any model (friend or foe) in base contact with one or more Bale Taurus or K'daai, except a Chaos Dwarf using it as a mount or another K'daai, takes an automatic Strength 4 hit at the start of the close combat phase. This is a flaming attack.
Additionally, any non Magical attacks must re-roll successfulTo wound rolls.
Fireborn are K'daai so they don't get the -1 anymore
rpitts2004
Any model (friend or foe) in base contact with one or more Bale Taurus or K'daai, except a Chaos Dwarf using it as a mount or another K'daai, takes an automatic Strength 4 hit at the start of the close combat phase. This is a flaming attack.but the second part, is non specific and applies to all (tauruses and Kdaais)
Additionally, any non Magical attacks must re-roll successfulTo wound rolls.food for thought.
rpitts2004:
But when it shows Replace the text, then the prior text is eliminated from the rulebook all together so I think the -1 is just totally gone unless it’s is somewhere else or posted by forgeworld?
KramDratta:
Strength 4 Flaming Hit: Bale Taurus, Great Taurus (Storm Of Magic rules), K’Daai Fireborn, K’Daai Destroyer
Re-roll successful To Wound rolls from non-magical attacks: Bale Taurus, K’Daai Fireborn, K’Daai Destroyer
-1 To Wound penalty: Great Taurus
The reason behind this is (ASSUMPTION) that the Great Taurus is from the Storm Of Magic, which Forgeworld have no control/jurisdiction upon. Therefore, FW cannot amend the rules for the Great Taurus, only the GW FAQ team can do that.
Moreover, with the latest FAQs effectively removing the “wound automatically on a 1+” and FW removing the “cannot wound on 7s” FAQ, this has left a grey area for the Great Taurus vs Str 3 attacks…
(But we’re Chaos Dwarfs…grey is our natural colour 
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Goltor Lintrepide:
Strength 4 Flaming Hit: Bale Taurus, Great Taurus (Storm Of Magic rules), K'Daai Fireborn, K'Daai DestroyerYep, it is exactly that. I can't remember who post it, but it's from an answer of Forge world to this specific question.
Re-roll successful To Wound rolls from non-magical attacks: Bale Taurus, K'Daai Fireborn, K'Daai Destroyer
-1 To Wound penalty: Great Taurus
The reason behind this is (ASSUMPTION) that the Great Taurus is from the Storm Of Magic, which Forgeworld have no control/jurisdiction upon. Therefore, FW cannot amend the rules for the Great Taurus, only the GW FAQ team can do that.
KramDratta
Yodrin:
So how do people play the Great Taurus vs S3? Can it be wounded or not?
Da Crusha:
it doesn’t make sense to use the great Taurus out of the storm of magic book. no where in the tamurkhan does it say to use the storm of magic version.
gashnag:
it doesn't make sense to use the great Taurus out of the storm of magic book. no where in the tamurkhan does it say to use the storm of magic version.The reason is the blazing body rule in Storm of Magic is an ability made by Games-workshop them selves. While the units from Tamurkhan were from Forge world and while they can modify the rules for their own models they cannot faq a rule that was made by GW.
Da Crusha
Hashut’s Blessing:
gashnag: Except the rule is in their book. It just happens to have the same name. At no point does it say “Blazing Body (as used by Games Workshop/in Storm of Magic/a different publication to the this one which already has the rule in).” - there is no precedent and the Divergent Origins special rule backs this up.
KramDratta:
it doesn't make sense to use the great Taurus out of the storm of magic book. no where in the tamurkhan does it say to use the storm of magic version.It will, once I manage to convice FW to publish the updated replies in the Tamurkhan FAQ
Da Crusha
Hashut’s Blessing:
But an e-maill reply means precisely diddly-squat. It means as much (and, in my opinion, often less, lol - because I’m awesome ^^) as a PM from me with a decision on a ruling.
Yodrin:
I guess people play the GT different then? I will stick with Kramdatta for now cause of the mail, and wait for a new FAQ.
Ender SpiteSworn:
That is a tad confusing. I think I will just let my opponents choose. Its not a huge deal either way.
Looks like my latest list is going to feature a GT…still on the fence for the BT upgrade though, it just takes a lot of points away from the rest of the army. By dropping down to the GT I switch a death shrieker to a magma cannon, and make the iron daemon hell bound… decisions decisions.
RiTides:
But the clarification makes sense because the great taurus IS in storm of magic… just like the lamassu.
A slightly related question… with great taurus being mounted on a 50mm square base, and a bale taurus being on a 60x100mm… do folks make their taurus model hot-swappable onto either base? I’m planning to mount mine on a 50mm and then have that be mountable to the larger base…
Thoughts appreciated, seems a bit tricky to do well but I’m sure others have had this quandry already and come up with something 
rpitts2004:
But the clarification makes sense because the great taurus IS in storm of magic... just like the lamassu.Has it been clarified there is any difference? I use my Drazogath on bale taurus, as a prophet on a taurus, or bale taurus when I have the points?
A slightly related question... with great taurus being mounted on a 50mm square base, and a bale taurus being on a 60x100mm... do folks make their taurus model hot-swappable onto either base? I'm planning to mount mine on a 50mm and then have that be mountable to the larger base...
Thoughts appreciated, seems a bit tricky to do well but I'm sure others have had this quandry already and come up with something :)
RiTides
Yodrin:
Btw… if a prophet on a bale taurus is in base contact with another ridden monster (lord on dragon), who takes the flaming hit? both or one of them (lord or dragon)?
rpitts2004:
Btw.. if a prophet on a bale taurus is in base contact with another ridden monster (lord on dragon), who takes the flaming hit? both or one of them (lord or dragon)?I would say both, cause it's one model and not distributed as shooting
Yodrin