[Archive] Metal vs Plastic figures

Willmark:

The best thing about metal is that it gives the sculptors a chance to show what they can do.
With plastic everyone will just end up with armies that look the same. Sure there will be different paint jobs and some conversions but ultimately the variety will diminish.

wallacer
True to a point, but being more of an easier time to convert, anything is possible. Of course it could conceivably lead to armies that do in fact look alike... as you generally don't modify your models as a complete noobie...

Kera foehunter:

metal figures is like gold it has a luster that you cant find in plastic.but plastic is like your car you need it and you always working on it to make it work. amen

Pyro Stick:

I seem to have hundreds o fplastic models lying around cause i cant be bothered to paint them. You dont get the same satisfaction from plastic models. If metal models were ever completely eradicated from GW products i would quite the hobby immediately.

wallacer:

True to a point, but being more of an easier time to convert, anything is possible.

Willmark
Yes, but how many of GW's kiddy target market are going to be converting the plastic figures they buy? Not that many i'm guessing.

Kera foehunter:

well when they get tyied of there plastic figures .they go back to the gameboys and the new 360s so i dont see them as a target market

Willmark:

True to a point, but being more of an easier time to convert, anything is possible.

Willmark
Yes, but how many of GW's kiddy target market are going to be converting the plastic figures they buy? Not that many i'm guessing.


wallacer
Which is why I also said: :)
Of course it could conceivably lead to armies that do in fact look alike... as you generally don't modify your models as a complete noobie...

Willmark

D’dos Croizii:

I always liked metal, like most people stated, it seems to be more satisfying then plastic and you can strip the paint off them at the end of the day if you don’t like them as they are.

Willmark:

Metal gets my vote as well. Usually the level of detail on a metal figure is way beyond that of a plastic one.

Kera foehunter:

so how many of you older guys have lead figures??

ashur:

well some of the plastic are better but the new empier handgunner look like crap!!

Kera foehunter
Most of the new Empire look like crap. They seem to enjoy making ridiculously bigger weapons each time.
Easier to paint when theyr made of plastic.
But I dont know much about painting.

AGPO:

I seem to have hundreds o fplastic models lying around cause i cant be bothered to paint them. You dont get the same satisfaction from plastic models. If metal models were ever completely eradicated from GW products i would quite the hobby immediately.

Pyro Stick
Yeah, but thats generally coz the plastics are your core troops, which get boring to paint after a while anyway!

Kera foehunter:

well thats true .plastic is borring painting. The only hope is to do converting to help outthe (cookie stamped out non poseable figures) like the Bfsm figures.

Willmark:

But as CD players. We shouldn’t he upset with the [[BFSP]] set its the best deal going for CD models. Of course there will be some left over goblins I.e. The spider riders but its still an aweome deal.

Kera foehunter:

well you got me there it is a great buy .

Willmark:

so how many of you older guys have lead figures??

Kera foehunter
I've got crap loads of lead figures... I used to chew them, that explains a lot! :~

Arlon:

well i like plastic because its easier to glue together

and when youve glued your hand to the whole metal giant trying to put him together …

well you get the idea

BLOOD AXE:

I prefer plastics for basic troops and conversions. Metal figs for characters.

Kera foehunter:

Here one when you convert metal figures do you put plastic part on them ???

angryboy2k:

Here one when you convert metal figures do you put plastic part on them ???

Kera foehunter
Depends what you're doing with the figure. You can easily do both, unless it's something like sticking a massive lump of metal on top of a thin plastic shaft to create a standard... Not that I've ever done that before. Honest.

Converting metal clearly requires a better plan than "let's chop this guy up". That's not to say I haven't done that, but I've always found that you'd better have a sketch or something when converting and cutting up metals.

Steve

angryboy2k:

Oh..... Oh my word... Thats is utterly disgusting... We are still sure they fired Gary Morley?

- Tallhat

Tallhat
You know, I've been meaning to answer this for ages because I've met Gary Morley, he is a stand-up bloke, and I really hate seeing him criticized. I know he was in charge of training sculptors at GW for a while and he is very talented. I've been thinking a lot about how maligned he is in many forums over his sculpting in general, and here's what I think.

From a technical viewpoint, Gary is actually an excellent sculptor. If you look at the things he's done, taken element by element they are actually really good. Where he falls down is in the bringing of these elements together to create a cohesive whole.

Take his Inquisitor figures for example. Four figures that he did for the line are Von Castellan, Van Jastobal (conversion of Castellan), Delphan Gruss, and Tezla (conversion of Gruss).

All the pieces are fantastic, and the ideas are really fantastic too. Von Castellan is running at (or away from!) an enemy. Jastobal has one of the coolest alternate heads EVER (borg-like bionics). Delphan Gruss has all these servo arms and pipes coming out of him, along with a WICKED left arm with giant spinny thing. Tezla has a monster axe and some very nice power tools.

However, when you begin to assemble them, you realize that without some minor modifications they don't quite look right. Tezla's right arm is at an unnatural angle (his left doesn't count because it's half wires). Gruss's right arm also sticks stiffly out from his body. Castellan and Jastobal, despite all the cool pieces and the running pose somehow manage to look a little stiff and need some bending out to look more natural.

I'm not as familiar with his 40K stuff, but I know he gets slammed for his Dark Eldar, and as I recall the design staff were given something like two weeks notice to produce most of that line. I do remember thinking at the time that they were fairly cool, and they certainly had their fans (though I wasn't really among them).

He is also eternally embarrassed by Nagash and wishes to god that the world could forget about that one.

Steve