[Archive] Small changes to forum

Grimstonefire:

Based on some suggestions to bring CDO back to Chaos Dwarfs, I’ve changed it so the following sections no longer count towards your post count:

Warhammer Discussion

The Market Place

Off-Topic Showcase

The Off Topic section has been a zero post count section for ages already.

So for those concerned about these things the only places you can now get posts are the sections where you’re discussing CD in some shape or form.

Kera foehunter:

sounds good !

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Arashi:

Makes sense, sounds good for me as well.

Grimstonefire:

CDO was and hopefully is all about Chaos Dwarfs, so much as we all want to discuss other armies the forum is busy enough that we certainly don’t have to rely on these sections to keep us going.

So overall I thought we could just downplay these sections by taking out the post count.  It’s not a major change obviously, but significant in showing the focus of our forum in the long term.

I’m actually doing a strategic look at CDO for the next year or so atm, looking at the likely changes needed in every section, so if anyone has any suggests post them here or pm me.

Kera foehunter:

But it is a chaos dwarf site not a random warhammer site ! I think it would work out if we

streamline this site ! Heck it still going strong after 2 years

now that’s something to be proud of!!!

Pyro Stick:

Im not so sure where getting rid of the market place postcount came from. 90% of the stuff posted there is chaos dwarf related so why did you do it?

Grimstonefire:

It doesn’t have to be CD stuff sold though, and it’s hardly going to make a huge difference anyway.

The basic point was to try and encourage people to gain posts by contributing about CD to as many people as possible.  I don’t feel the market place does this, and more as a general statement I’m sure we want people to want to gather posts elsewhere :wink:

I agree, it didn’t have to be done there, but these changes are more about the general direction of our focus for the future than specifically about how many posts in each section may or may not be to do with CD.

The Slavebay is perhaps reason why it should be kept as counting for posts, but the market really is just another form of off topic IMO.

If people want to write essays on the history of their CD collections (why they want to sell/ buy it) and we banned all non CD sales then I might change my mind! (note the sarcasm :))

Swissdictator:

When do these changes go into effect? My current post count seems the same… and yes I’ve been keeping track, for a certain reason… hehe. Is this from now on and not retroactive, or is this retroactive?

Is there a way the slavebay could count, but not the general show case? The slavebay is a really cool little idea and I want to see that continue.

Grimstonefire:

All the sections will work exactly the same as before, they just won’t count towards posts from now on (not retroactive).  I haven’t gotten rid of anything.

In time nobody will even notice… :wink: More to the point, people probably won’t even care their post count isn’t going up when they post there(?)

Pyro Stick:

The Slavebay is perhaps reason why it should be kept as counting for posts, but the market really is just another form of off topic IMO.

Grimstonefire
What about the going rates thread, the find on bartertown thread, the good finds thread, the marauder mage and 3rd edition threads and every thread with members trying to sell their chaos dwarfs? Whether you like it or not, they are just as chaos dwarf related as every other thread and certainly NOT off topic.

Grimstonefire:

There are threads yes.  But I don’t know why this is an issue really, it’s not like we get hundreds of threads and replies there anyway?  Certainly nowhere near what we do on the other areas.

The vast majority of the constructive CD related stuff on the forum happens in the CD discussion, all the hobby areas and the army book development section anyway?

The market place is so small compared to the thousands of views and replies we have in the other areas.

I do take your point Pyro, but we have to draw a line in the sand somewhere between what is actually contributing overall to the most number of people and what is perfectly fine to read and contribute to but is only a small part of what the CDO forum is all about.  The market place, the warhammer section and all the off topic bits are really only bolt on parts to the forum, they are needed to give members a place to discuss these things, but CDO would survive without them.

I never said those parts were not perfectly fine, and useful to read, just that in the whole scheme of important things they are not quite as important to CDO as discussion in the ideas or showcase threads (for example).

Anyway.  At the end of the day what really is a post count?

If you do have genuine concerns about the impact this will have on the forum I am more than happy to discuss this by pm?

GRNDL:

I think the popularity of the website has just as much to do with the turnover in other threads besides the CD related ones, and as such, they should count toward the whole. Its part of the community that’s been built here.

Every so often, a declaration of how successful the website/forums are is made: over X,000 posts and this presumably is across the whole set of forums, not just CD, so how can you say that those off-topic posts haven’t contributed and aren’t worth recognition?

IMO, when a post is made, whatever the topic, it should be acknowledged. I post here and only here, yet my interests go far beyond that of just CDs and I try to foster the enthusiasm for the hobby, and by supporting the forums, CDs. Why encourage me to post less?

Oh of course, what’s in a post count, right? What difference will it make? It means nothing… Well, if that’s your reasoning, why exclude any posts at all?

Grimstonefire:

How am I encouraging anyone to post less?

Exactly the same number of people will read your threads as they did before. I certainly don’t want to encourage you or Pyro to contribute less, you’re both up as nominees for awards! It’s just in those sections your contributions will be acknowledged only by replies (not a post count).

This is exactly the same policy we have had for ages in Off Topic, and that’s a really busy section.

Swissdictator:

I’ll still post in these forums. I see some valid points on both sides.

Either way I love this website to much for it to be an issue for me.

cornixt:

Do people really care about post count anyway?

The only thing it does is show that someone is a newbie or rarely posts. I didn’t even notice when I broke 1000 posts until Xander pointed it out. Slaves are the only thing for respect since they are earned by impressing people, rather than quantity.

Ubertechie:

I like the intent - however I dont think post count changes will have any effect on people that you want to influence.

The only real important number is whether you have more than or less than 1000 as you get a personal moniker.

I dont pay any attention to the post count when i read a thread / reply as a new comer may have a lot more relevant / interesting things to say over someone who has posted a lot of inane things (please note that I am being hypothetical and everyone here who has posted lots has not doen so by posting drivel)

Things like the awards / mentions in WOH are going to help as in the golden hat and other regular competitions - especially if there are prizes. The key to any web-based community is stickyness and we have great content already which makes us very sticky - we should be focus all of efforts on getting more people to come to the site and then getting them involved in things once they are here.

Hope that makes sense

Grimstonefire:

Things like the awards / mentions in WOH are going to help as in the golden hat and other regular competitions - especially if there are prizes. The key to any web-based community is stickyness and we have great content already which makes us very sticky - we should be focus all of efforts on getting more people to come to the site and then getting them involved in things once they are here.

Hope that makes sense

Ubertechie
I agree.  At the end of the day this is Chaos Dwarfs online, does exactly what it says on the tin.  We have core things that make us stand out from all the other warhammer forums, and these are the things that keep people interested!

And on that note I should probably go and spend some time painting my warmachine.

Swissdictator:

The fact we have such a good group of people is the true highlight. There are a lot of people on these boards that add a lot to the community, even if they don’t play CD or even play warhammer.

That and the little things we have running such as Golden Hat, WoH, etc all really give this site the flavor it has that makes it much better then any forum I’ve been on to date.

Kera foehunter:

like cornix said !!!well maybe my first 1000 when you can pick your name

but after that it doesn’t mean any thing. i just like being here !!

and i love to talk !!! And help people when i can

two_heads_talking:

Shoot, if we never kept track of post count would people even make a big deal out of it? Hell no. Post count, what is that anyways? Epeen count? does it matter if yours is bigger than mine? If it does, why are you looking at mine if the first place. Mine works for me and shouldn’t be compared to yours, just so I can feel inadequate…

Can I be anymore blunt. I think post count is … just like taking a peek at your mate while your taking a wizz… quit looking and just do your business, wash your hands and get the frag out of that bathroom…

C wut I did thar?