Who btw. is having something between his legs, poorly sculpted chainmail, a very static pose and is out of scale.
There's nothing wrong with any of those things (except the chainmail, and I have to disagree there - nothing wrong with the mail on the AoW Chaos Dwarf), except when they're used to hide weaknesses in basic technique. And it's not so much that the pose is static on this model - just that it's a pose that's obviously been decided upon based on what he is and isn't capable of doing.
I mean, what's he even supposed to be doing? The head isn't pointing in the same direction as the weapon, so he must just be standing there with his arm out, resting on someone's head. It makes no sense.
And it's not so much that the pose is static on this model - just that it's a pose that's obviously been decided upon based on what he is and isn't capable of doing.
Thommy H
sorry, I should have stated my point more clearly. I don't think the AoD Dwarf is a bad model - I instead like it very much and own it. I just wanted to point out that there are bad things on every model. Well, lets not say bad but parts with less quality.
I mean, what's he even supposed to be doing? The head isn't pointing in the same direction as the weapon, so he must just be standing there with his arm out, resting on someone's head. It makes no sense.
Thommy H
point taken :P
As always Scibors models do heavily polarize. It comes down to weather you like the detail and style and therefor can ignore some flaws - or if you rather like the less detailed, technically perfect models.
I'm sure Obsidian will let you know here
demi_morgana
I'm sure he will... I was hoping for an approximated date... like "this year" ?
:P
or if you rather like the less detailed, technically perfect models.
It's got nothing to do with an excess of detail, though I'm the first to rag on AoW, actually, for being guilty of the peculiar sin of cramming a model with extraneous stuff at the expense of making something genuinelly exciting. The Chaos Dwarf in my avatar is the only AoW model I've ever been the least bit interested in.
Scibor's stuff is just bad and shows a lack of certain fundamental sculpting skills. But since people lap it up anyway, he's got no reason to try to up his game. It just saddens me that he flogs his awful "conversions" on ebay to GW fanboys for hundreds of dollars when there are talented manufacturers going out of business.
Is it me or does this look A LOT like a certain Dwarf figure? I’m almost certain it is a mild conversion of it… while not a bad conversion.
I could swear it’s very close to the same… just made more barbaric/evil.
I hate to say it, but that honestly puts me off a bit. I just can’t shake that impression, it looks like he took the figure I used to use as a Dwarf lord in my old Dwarf army. I’d almost swear by it.
I’ll wait to see his other work though.
To be fair: I also wear glasses, so it could just be me.
The Chaos Dwarf in my avatar is the only AoW model I've ever been the least bit interested in.
Thommy H
Im a goblin player so that might be a reason, but the Goblin King is one if the best models IMO!
Edit: Forgot about the topic here, hehe. Both the CDs, AoW and this one, are ok models. Nothing I get over exited about, but its still great to se some new CDs coming out. And btw, the sheild thing between his legs looks kinda odd.
Thommy H…I’m just wondering what, IYO, would be a good pose for a Chaos Dwarf?
Dwarfs, like Night Goblins, don’t offer much in the way of dynamic “leg poses”. The length of leg doesn’t allow for it and most of the GW Dwarfs are wearing “Dress-like” armour which hides their legs. In fact, all you can go on 90% of the time is their shoes.
It seems like you prefer the “Hand Weapon/eye contact” connection. What is a good pose where this rule wouldn’t apply?
Also, the ammount of “Costume Goodies” - I.E. Skulls, capes, helmets, etc…how much is too much and how little is too little?
Any other thing you can think to add would be helpful too.
When I first saw the mini I thought that there is a helluva strong wind there. He’s wearing a fur cape that is blowing in the wind, but his beard is static.
Thommy H...I'm just wondering what, IYO, would be a good pose for a Chaos Dwarf?
It's nothing to do with this model being of a Dwarf. The pose just makes no sense - why is he holding his weapon out in that direction, while looking off at something else? Is he supposed to be mid-swing, or is he pointing at something? Or is it, as I suspect, just a random "cool pose" with no real attention paid to the story the miniature is telling?
A wargames figure should depict a tableaux that makes sense. The posing and anatomy should all hang together in a way that's pleasing. It's art: like a sculpture. Scibor just seems to be shoving details together to create something vaguely cool, without regard to anything else.
The shield in the groin looks really odd to me, and I can’t look at the model without it sticking out like a sore… I’m not too keen on the skull on his weapon either.
Some nice detail on there, although the basic chainmail does seem a bit off considering how nice the rest of the model looks.
I would start by not doing any of the things I just criticised this sculpt for. I'd also, were I a sculptor, try using an armature and getting the basic anatomy right before I started sticking skulls on things.
Do you not think you’re going about asking these questions the wrong way, Tarrakk? We have one example of something that I’ve said is bad: you can’t work backwards from that by asking what’s good. Lots of things are good. This isn’t. I’m not going to sit here and define all the other things in the world that don’t suck.
guys, don’t you think you are getting a little OT here…?
anyway, most of the time you’ll start by having the idea for a miniature. Mostly you will look for / paint some reference material first. After this you’ll start building an armature to get the proportions right. “Finally” you’ll add more and more layers, until you think you are done.
btt:
MUCH sooner :cheers
demi_morgana
nice!
Perhaps I need to buy many of them and convert them to form a unit of immortals… saves idea for the future