[Archive] Some interesting rumours about 8th

Thommy H:

I think my favourite rumour about 8th so far is all the magic items in the Rulebook. I like the “Foldable Tower” thing or whatever it is. The Beastmen book actually contains (what I imagine is) a very similar item in the form of a herdstone that grows from the ground or something that you then put in your deployment zone. Blatantly, the idea behind this is that if you have a terrain piece of the right description, you can use it and have it have some game effect without using the special features rules. So if you have a wizard’s tower in your terrain collection, you can use it in the game by paying points for it. And I think that’s pretty cool.

Baggronor:

I like the "Foldable Tower" thing or whatever it is.
Lol its very Warcraft 3 :)

wallacer:

More Warhammer piccies:

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Kered:

I will just get a gallows ready for my wallet.

I’m very glad too see magic cards coming back. I printed off the 7 edition ones for my blue scribes and let my opponent pick on at random.

Thommy H:

Looking forward to the new rules and the pretty pictures, but I could not be more ambivalent towards the stupid tat in that picture. Who the hell needs a flamer template that looks like it came out of that wind-up robot from Return to Oz? If you buy that, you’ve got more money than sense.

Kered:

but… but… its so pretty.

but I do see your point but I’v had no need to get a template before I got chaos dwarves so I might get one now.

Baggronor:

Who the hell needs a flamer template that looks like it came out of that wind-up robot from Return to Oz? If you buy that, you've got more money than sense.
I actually think the golden templates look really cool :cheers
Alas, I have more sense than money. Which, in its own way, is even more depressing.

AGPO:

If that stuff comes in the boxed set I’ll more than happily pick it up. However as I rarely game these days the new rules are merely a curiosity. I may try and get a few games in down Warhammer World but I don’t have most of my collection up here i Notts.

Grimstonefire:

I don’t think they will come in the box, you’d have to buy them separately.

Also, it may be worth people heading down to their GW on saturday, as I hear they will have the 8th ed book (the big one) on public display.

Anonymouse:

but... but... its so pretty.

Kered
Snap out of it, man! For the love of deep-fried ham and plastic shrimp, pull yourself together!

*SLAP!*

:D

wallacer:

List of new common items for 8th

I tried and gathered some more informations, this time all about the new magic items. Since I am from Germany, I write just down the German names of the items.

Magic Weapons
Riesenklinge (Giantsblade) 60 pts
Strength +3 at close combat
Schwert des Blutbades (Sword of Bloodbath) 60 pts
Bearer gains 3 attacks
Obsidianklinge (Obsidianblade) 50 pts
Wounds with this weapon ignore armour saves
Ogerklinge (Ogerblade) 40 pts
Strength +2 at close combat
Schwert des Haders (Scword of quarrel) 40 pts
Bearer gains 2 attacks
Duellklinge (duelblade) 35 pts
Weapon pair, bearer has weapon skill 10
Heldentöter (Heroslayer) 30 pts
Bearer gains 1 attack and strength for every character model that is in base contact with him or his unit. Bonus is calculated at every the beginning of the close combat
Zauberraubklinge () 25 pts
If a wizard his wounded with this sword, he will lose one random spell for each wound
Schlachtenkling () 20 pts
Bearer gains 1 attack
Schwert der Macht () 20 pts
+1 strength in close combat
Berserkerschwert () 20 pts
Bearer gains frenzy and can never lose it
Goldenes Siegelschwert () 15 pts
Attacks are done with initiative 10
Behände Klinge () 15 pts
Bonus of +1 to hit
Reissende Klinge () 10 pts
Attacks are armour piercing
Reliquienschwert () 10 pts
Attacks with this sword wound always on 5+, or better if one would wound normally on a lower score.
Kreischende Klinge () 10 pts
Bearer causes fear
Schwert der Pein () 5 pts
Monster or character that loses one or more wounds to this sword, will suffer from stupid
Kriegerfluch () 5 pts
Monster or character that loses one or more wounds to this sword, will lose one attack (but will keep at least one attack)

Magic Armour
Rüstung des Schicksals () 50 pts
Heavy armour, 4+ ward save
Schurkenhelm () 50 pts
Armour save is better by 1, enemy has to re-roll successful wounds
Silberstahlrüstung () 45 pts
Armour save 2+, can not be further improved
Rüstung des Glücks () 35 pts
Heavy armour, 5+ ward save
Helm der Zwietracht () 30 pts
Armour save is better by 1, enemy character model has to pass a leadership test, if it fails, it can not attack and will be hit automatically
Glitzernde Schuppenrüstung () 25 pts
Light armour, foes hit chance is reduced by 1 in close combat
Schild des Ptolos () 25 pts
Buckler, 1+ armour save against missile attack (Beschussattacken)
Zauberspruchshild () 20 pts
Buckler, bearer gains magic resistance (1)
Rüstung des Glücksritters () 20 pts
Heavy armour, 6+ ward save
Drachenhelm () 10 pts
Armour save is better by 1, 2+ ward save against fire attacks
Verzauberter Schild () 5 pts
Buckler, Armour save is better by 2
Glücksbringender Schild () 5 pts
Buckler, only one use, first hit will be ignored by 2+

Talisman
Talisman der Bewahrung () 45 pts
Bearer gains 4+ ward save
Grosser Obsidian () 45 pts
Bearer gains magic resistance (3)
Talisman der Ausdauer () 30 pts
Bearer gains 5+ ward save
Obsidian Amulett () 30 pts
Bearer gains magic resistance (2)
Dämmerstein () 25 pts
Bearer re-rolls missed armour saves
Opalamulett () 15 pts
Only one use, 4+ ward save against first wound
Obsidiananhänger () 15 pts
Bearer gains magic resistance (1)
Talisman des Schutzes () 15 pts
Bearer gains ward save 6+
Samen der Wiedergeburt () 10 pts
Bearer gains 6+ regeneration
Drachenfluchstein () 5 pts
Bearer gains 2+ ward save against fire attacks
Federrupfanhänger () 5 pts
Bearer gain 5+ ward save against models with rule �?oflying�?�
Glücksstein () 5 pts
Only one use, Bearer can re-roll one missed armour save

Magic Standard
Standarte der Mordlust () 55 pts
Unit can re-roll attacks
Heulende Standarte () 50 pts
Unit causes horror
Waldläuferbanner () 50 pts
Unit gains �?oterrain knowledge???�?�
Klingenstandarte () 45 pts
Unit gains armour piercing
Kriegsbanner () 35 pts
+1 on combat outcome
Banner der Eile () 15 pts
+1 on movement range
Knochenstandarte () 15 pts
Magic resistance (1)
Standarte der Disziplin () 15 pts
+1 on leadership, but can not use the generals leadership
Banner der Ewigen Flamme () 10 pts
Unit causes fire attacks
Strahlende Flagge () 5 pts
Only one use, unit can re-roll first muffed (?) leadership test
Vogelscheuchenbanner () 5 pts
Unit causes fear on all units with �?ofyling�?�

Wizard Arcana
Buch von Ashur (Book of Ashur) 70 pts
Bearer gains +1 on his spells and dispels
Schriftrolle der Rückkopplung (Scroll of reaction) 50 pts
Only one use, if an enemy wizard casts a spell, the player can read this scroll instead of banning. The spell will be cast successful. But after resolving the spells effect, the player will roll one dice for every used power dice. For every 5+ the wizard will lose a wound, no armour saves are allowed
Schriftrolle des Energieraubs (Scroll of energy predation) 50 pts
Only one use, if an enemy wizard casts a spell, the player can read this scroll instead of banning. The spell will be cast successful. But after resolving the spells effect, the player will gain as many dispel dices as the wizard used power dices.
Sivejir�?Ts Fluchrolle () 50 pts
Only one use, if an enemy wizard casts a spell, the player can read this scroll instead of banning. The spell will be cast successful. But after resolving the spells effect, the wizard will be a frog, if he is not able to roll one d6 below his magic level. All stats are reduced to 1, only his wounds stay the same. He can not use his magic items etc or cast spells/dispels. The wizard can try to free himself in his next own magic turn on a 4+
Energiespruchrolle () 35 pts
Only one use, every doubles will cause total energy and loss of control
Pechkohlen-Zauberstab () 35 pts
Only one use, wizard can decide to use the staffs power after a successful casts spell to increase the score by rolling an additional d6. By that he can gain total energy and a loss of control
Verbotener Stab () 35 pts
Only one use, at the beginning of his magic turn, the staff grants d6 energy dices. Bearer suffers d3 wounds, no armour saves are allowed
Gauners Scherbe () 25 pts
Only one use, one has to declare the use of it at the beginning of his magic turn, if an enemy wizard want to dispel a spell cast by this wizard, he will lose one wound on 5+, no armour save allowed.
Erdender Stab () 25 pts
Only one use, wizard can re-roll first loss of control
Magiebannende Spruchrolle () 25 points
Only one use, dispels one spell automatically
Energiestein () 20 pts
Only one use, declare to use the stone before you cast a spell. Wizard can use two additional energy dices, but has to use at least one of the energy pool.
Zepter der Stabilität (sceptre of stability) 15 pts
Only one use, after rolling to bane one spell, you can roll an additional d6.
Kanalisierungsstab () 15 pts
Bearer gains +1 to channel an additional energy or dispel dice
Spruchrolle des Schutzes () 15 pts
Only one use, if an enemy wizard casts a spell, the player can read this scroll instead of banning. The spell will be cast successful. But after resolving the spells effect, the targeted unit gains a 4+ ward save for caused wound.

Enchanted Item
Zauberhut (wizards hat?) 100 pts
Level 2 mage, random magic lore, stupid
Fozzriks faltbare Festung (a pocket-watchtower) 100 pts
When both armies have placed their stuff, you can place a watchtower. Rules are in the rules book
Arabianischer Teppich (arabic rug) 50 pts
Infantry and monstrous infantry gain flying, cannot join units
Krone der Herrschaft 35 (crown of command) pts 35
Bearer is relentless (in German it is �?ounnachgiebig�?�)
Heiltrank (healing potion) 35 pts
Only one use, gain W6 lost health
Flügelfluchreif (winged curse circlet???) 35 points
Flying creatures and their riders have to re-roll successful hits against bearer/unit
Rubinring der Zerstörung (rubyring of destruction) 25 pts
Bound spell (energy level 3) Fireball
Die Schreckensmaske von Iek! () 25 pts
Bearer causes horror. Other units are not allowed to use his leadership
Stärketrank (strength potion) 20 pts
Only one use, +3 strength
Widerstandstrank (toughness potion) 20 pts
Only one use, +3 toughness
Des anderen Gauners Scherbe (the others chiseller shard) 15 pts
All models in base contact (friend and foe) need to re-roll successful saves
Eisenfluch-Ikone () 5 pts
6+ ward against war machines
Trank der Tollkühnheit () 5 pts
Only one use, immunity against psychology and �?zvernichtender Angriff�?o (killing attack?)
Trank der Geschwindigkeit (speed potion) 5 pts
Only one use,+3 initiative

Warseer

Grimstonefire:

Beat me to it!

Some serious things in there for sure.

I really like these ones:

Schwert der Pein () 5 pts

Monster or character that loses one or more wounds to this sword, will suffer from stupid

Kriegerfluch () 5 pts

Monster or character that loses one or more wounds to this sword, will lose one attack (but will keep at least one attack)

Thommy H:

Awesome.

Also, if anyone had any doubt that the Ravening Hordes list will need some clarifying, the presence of the Obsidian items in this list (some of which have the same names as Chaos Dwarf magic items, I think) proves that there’s going to need to be an errata of some kind.

warh:

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wallacer
What!?
22,5 euro for a measuring stick!

Anonymouse:



wallacer
List of new common items for 8th

I tried and gathered some more informations, this time all about the new magic items. Since I am from Germany, I write just down the German names of the items.

Warseer
Magic Weapons
Zauberraubklinge () 25 pts Sword of Magical Theft
Schlachtenkling () 20 pts Butcherblade/ Killing Blade
Schwert der Macht () 20 pts Sword of Might
Berserkerschwert () 20 pts Berserkersword
Reissende Klinge () 10 pts Rendering Sword/ Biting Blade
Reliquienschwert () 10 pts Relique-sword/ Sord of Relics?
Kreischende Klinge () 10 pts Screaming Blade
Schwert der Pein () 5 pts *EDIT: Sword of Pain WAS TRANSLATED INCORRECTLY: SHOULD BE "Sword of Deadly Terror"*
Kriegerfluch () 5 pts Warrior's Bane/ Warrior's Curse

Magic Armour
Rüstung des Schicksals () 50 pts Armour of Fate
Schurkenhelm () 50 pts Bad Boy Helmet?
Silberstahlrüstung () 45 pts Armour of silversteel/ Quicksilver Armour?
Rüstung des Glücks () 35 pts Armour of Fortune
Helm der Zwietracht () 30 pts Helm of Quarrel
Glitzernde Schuppenrüstung () 25 pts Glittering Scalearmour
Schild des Ptolos () 25 pts Beats me. SHield of Ptolos
Zauberspruchshild () 20 pts Enchanted shield? Shield of the Magic Word? Magic Shield?
Rüstung des Glücksritters () 20 pts Armour of the Lucky Knight
Drachenhelm () 10 pts Dragonhelmet
Verzauberter Schild () 5 pts Enchanted Shield
Glücksbringender Schild () 5 pts Luck-bringing Shield/ SHield of Luck

Will try and look for a translation later today :)

Baggronor:

Schild des Ptolos () 25 pts Beats me. SHield of Ptolos
Yep, thats what it was called in 5th.
Schurkenhelm () 50 pts Bad Boy Helmet?
Lmao, my Lord is having this, I don't even care what it does :)

phierlihy:

Watch out everybody! Groshnot the Hobgoblin is out on the field hunting Steam Tanks. He’s got his handy-dandy sword of +3 strength and his potion of +3 strength. Huzzah!

Swissdictator:

I’m just happy Spears will finally be a very good choice, and not just Hw/Sh for the most part. This makes very happy as I made two armies that can horde easily (Skaven and Skeletons) have spears. Plus Empire spearmen are always a fun choice too, and I always preferred Dark Elven Spears over their Corsairs.

I’m really excited for the potential of my Empire in the new edition. For my Chaos Dwarfs, the expanded generic Magic Item List is going to REALLY help us. Plus the Earthshaker will provide a more vital roll I suspect.

Anonymouse:



wallacer
List of new common items for 8th

I tried and gathered some more informations, this time all about the new magic items. Since I am from Germany, I write just down the German names of the items.

Schurkenhelm () 50 pts would be Helm of the Rogue. I still like the Bab Boy Helmet better :)

Talisman
Talisman der Bewahrung () 45 pts Talisman of Protection
Grosser Obsidian () 45 pts Either Obsidian Pendant or Grand Obsidian.
Talisman der Ausdauer () 30 pts I got no idea
Obsidian Amulett () 30 pts Do I really have to translate this one?
Dämmerstein () 25 pts Either Stone of Twilight or Damned stone
Opalamulett () 15 pts Opal Amulet
Obsidiananhänger () 15 pts Obsidian Trailer. :p Or rather: Obsidian Pendant/Hanger
Talisman des Schutzes () 15 pts Talisman of Protection
Samen der Wiedergeburt () 10 pts Jewel of Rebirth
Drachenfluchstein () 5 pts Dragoncurse Stone/ Dragonsbane Stone
Federrupfanhänger () 5 pts Beats me. Feathered Thingumajig.
Glücksstein () 5 pts Lucky Stone

Magic Standards
Standarte der Mordlust () 55 pts Banner of Murderlust/Murderous Rage
Heulende Standarte () 50 pts Howling Standard
Waldläuferbanner () 50 pts Banner of the Forestwalker/Forestwalkerbanner
Klingenstandarte () 45 pts Blade-standard/ Standard of BLades
Kriegsbanner () 35 pts Warbanner
Banner der Eile () 15 pts Banner of Haste
Knochenstandarte () 15 pts Standard of Bones
Standarte der Disziplin () 15 pts Standard of Discipline
Banner der Ewigen Flamme () 10 pts Banner of the Eternal Flame
Strahlende Flagge () 5 pts Radiant Flag. maybe Radiating Flag
Vogelscheuchenbanner () 5 pts Scarecrow-banner

Wizard Arcana
Buch von Ashur (Book of Ashur) 70 pts Book of Ashur
Schriftrolle des Energieraubs (Scroll of energy predation) 50 pts
Sivejir�?Ts Fluchrolle () 50 pts Sivejer's Cursed Scroll
Energiespruchrolle () 35 pts Scroll of Energy
Pechkohlen-Zauberstab () 35 pts Completely no idea whatsoever. A Magic Staff. That's it.
Verbotener Stab () 35 pts Forbidden Rod/Forbidden Staff (hur hur, that's what she said)
Gauners Scherbe () 25 pts Wicked Shards/ Chisseling Shards. Not quite sure, because 'Gauner" means rascal, but it's probably meant in a darker way.
Erdender Stab () 25 pts Staff of Earthing/ similar to the HE starwoodstaff
Magiebannende Spruchrolle () 25 points Banishing Scroll/ Dispell Scroll
Energiestein () 20 pts Energy-stone/ Powerstone
Zepter der Stabilität (sceptre of stability) 15 pts
Kanalisierungsstab () 15 pts Staff of Channelling
Spruchrolle des Schutzes () 15 pts Scroll of Protection

Enchanted Item
Zauberhut (wizards hat?) 100 pts Yep, Magic Hat, if you want it literally.
Fozzriks faltbare Festung (a pocket-watchtower) 100 pts Fozzriks Foldable Fortress
Arabianischer Teppich (arabic rug) 50 pts Yup. I won't even comment on the ones you've already translated :)
Krone der Herrschaft 35 (crown of command) pts 35
Heiltrank (healing potion) 35 pts
Flügelfluchreif (winged curse circlet???) 35 points Could be pretty accurate translation
Rubinring der Zerstörung (rubyring of destruction) 25 pts
Die Schreckensmaske von Iek! () 25 pts The Scary/Scaring Mask of Eek! I kid you not.
Stärketrank (strength potion) 20 pts
Widerstandstrank (toughness potion) 20 pts
Des anderen Gauners Scherbe (the others chiseller shard) 15 pts
Eisenfluch-Ikone () 5 pts THe other Wicked Shards?
Trank der Tollkühnheit () 5 pts Potion of Cool THinking/Cool Behaviour/ Cool-headedness. Meh.
Only one use, immunity against psychology and �?zvernichtender Angriff�?o (killing attack?) Probably the "Crush them!/ Annihalate them/ Heroic Killing Blow" attack. It literally says "Destroying Attack". The rules will probably explain what this is.
Trank der Geschwindigkeit (speed potion) 5 pts

Warseer
Pffff, that was my contribution, hope it helped. Didn't wanna offend the one who posted this, but when I can translate something, I'll try.

Stil like the Bad Boy Helmet most :)

AssurBahniZharr:

Yes!!! very interesting items, basically they took some magic items from all Armybooks and made them commons. It means our CD have access to ST, more armours and weapons…

Wonderful the watch tower itemXD who can make a tutorial to build a CD tower?XD

I have one for skaven made more than 10 years ago (yuppiiiiii i knew it had to be useful some dayXD)