The journey to bogwyrm miniatures

A short announcement here as it’s not relevant to Chaos Dwarfs (yet), but I’ve recently launched bogwyrm miniatures with a friend! We’re US based and sell our own oldhammer-inspired lines, as well as importing European microbrands and dungeonsynth! Here’s a few of my favorite shots :smiley: Check us out!


Around the time I first announced my venture (in patron chat some months ago) @cubesight asked me what the process looked like. I would have asked the same when I was starting as there’s vanishingly little information out there for it, so I’ll use this space to document the process a bit.

I’m a sucker for old shit - I always have been. I’m out there buying books for dead games I’ll probably never play but still don’t own TOW’s rules, despite ostensibly trying to play that. It’s probably a result of growing up with a mom and two grandparents who were antique dealers. I also like throwbacks though, and most of my RPG time is spent with Lamentations of the Flame Princess or other OSR. And in that light I suppose it’s not surprising I ended up falling for the NewOldies community.

My first exposure to that was from here actually, with Admiralty Miniatures, and then OldSchoolMiniatures and Macrocosm not long after. It turns out that it’s a pretty busy space - but until you dig you don’t realize just how busy. Folks like Satanic Panic Miniatures who only sold occasionally through Kickstarter, 4A Miniatures who’s on eBay, Hybrid Miniatures who only sells on facebook, and the list goes on.

Collecting from, or even just following, these micro-creators was a real joy. You got all the excitement of discovery, the thrill of getting in on limited releases, the hipster cred of metal models no one else has seen before (and god knows I love my hipster cred), and all of it with largely reasonable prices and knowing the profits are going right back into the passion project.

So when Satanic Panic announced they were selling off a number of lines, including a set of orcs I’d been waiting on for close to a year, I got busy. Obviously the first thing I’d need was a caster. I’m quite lucky, Minnesota has a big gaming scene, and not just players. Asmodee/FFG, Dark Sword Miniatures, and, known more to the historicals community, GHQ Models, to name a few. Unfortunately for us though, these are all larger companies and none of them can take time out of their production schedule for orders at the volumes we were looking at (but huge props to the owner of GHQ for calling us back himself and talking to us about everything).

While there are a few hobby casters in the US it’s far less than the UK and ultimately it was to the oldhammer idol of the US that we went to for help, Mr. Satyr Studios himself, Drew Day Williams, who pointed us to his caster, Andrew Barlow of Dark Platypus Studio. Since signing on with him (ie mailing him all my molds) I’ve learned he’s pretty much the go-to guy for the vanishingly small micro-casting market in North America, and I can see why. The guys is incredibly helpful, trading dozens of emails with me over the weeks and months before I’d even ordered anything, and his work is absolutely superb. Here’s the production mold for the face shields we sell as an example:

So what did I learn over the course of all those emails?

Well, it’s already bedtime. Stay tuned for part 2!

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Can’t wait for the rest of the bedtime story, fantastic read, glad to see someone else fascinated by old artifacts of the past :smile:

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Great post and love what you have so far. I will be picking up some of those shields, and likely some goblins as well for a quirky goblinoid Turnip28 force I am building.

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@Jackswift would you believe half the reason for starting this was to get some decent face shields in metal in the US? I’m obsessed haha

So what does it look like to cast miniatures? I’ll take this through all the basics, as a primer of sorts, however I must stress this is only one way this is done! There are lots of ways to do this and I can only speak to what the casters I’ve gone through do.

The standard rubber mold is 9" in diameter. The shield mold in the earlier post is that size so you have some idea what that can hold. For our lines they run between 3 (trolls) and 16 (goblins) models each. I found that mold production will run from $100-200 per mold, depending on who’s doing it for you.

We’ll be running both hand and 3d sculpts and both can be used for metal casting, with some slight differences. Whatever you’re putting into the mold can’t be guaranteed to come out in one piece. While they need to survive the heat and actual curing process, they can be damaged when being removed from the mold itself. For this reason, scanning your hand-sculpted work can be used to preserve the original. We didn’t do this (and I’ve got a bag of pieces to prove it!).

In the case of mastering with a 3d print you need to be sure to use the correct printer and resin to ensure that there isn’t warping or breakage of the print during the curing process. It’s still recommended to create metal masters from your original resin masters however, as it gives an additional pass at cleaning up any minor imperfections from the master mold creation process.

From the master mold, master castings are created. (I’ve heard these called “tins” before, but not with any consistency) These are used to make your production molds. Why the extra step? Molds are only good for so many spins - the number of which varies wildly depending on the sculpt and the mold material. As you repeatedly pour molten metal into the mold, and then pull the models out, it will eventually damage areas causing loss of definition, or even have parts tear. I’m calculating my depreciation on what seems a safe 80 spins per mold right now, but it’s likely they will survive longer. Having a master mold allows you to create this set of miniature masters that can be used to create more production molds! So once the first wears out you can just create a new one. It also allows you to control your production a bit more - for example our master molds frequently contain models from other ranges (we have our own characters mastered next to some fabz, for example), but we can create production molds based more on how sets are actually sold allowing us to be more efficient in only producing what is needed.

Why not just create miniature masters out of your master mold, and then run production right off the original master mold? You certainly can, and some do! However you run the risk of the masters being damaged or lost, and then you’ve got no replacement!

One situation where you probably wouldn’t bother with separate master or production molds is if you were planning a limited run. In this case you just run your mold until you’ve got your set and you don’t need to worry about creating a new production mold.

Alas it’s getting late again. We’ll see if I know enough for one more post another time :sweat_smile:

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As with last time, great story time and super informative !
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Just picked up a set of the face shields with a very specific use in mind. Once they are in hand I will paint them up and post the finised models. Cheers!

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I was wondering if that was you haha, can’t wait to see them!

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Looking forward to working on them!

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