Broken how? It’s a slightly more reliable (and thus more expensive) steam tank with some gimmicky rules? If the carriage hauler ability had been remotely useful, it could be argued that it could be cheesed RAW, but it’s really not, so… Getting AP2 on stomps vs monstrous creatures is pretty boss though… Stepping on them wyvern toes.
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I suppose you are right, looking at the steam tank stats it also has T7 and even some more wounds. I think S8 is pretty amazing for automatic hits though, and if GW ever did update us I am certain they would nerf the Iron Daemon even if only slightly. Mine has only ever been killed by Pegasus Knights / Bretonnian Lords. It is the ultimate tar pit and an auto-include for me.
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Truly the ultimate pit. Unbreakable and nigh unkillable but not very punchy after the charge. I can’t remember what killed it now but pretty sure mine has only died once in 8 games. Also shooting the cannonade is fun, “Big bucks, no whammies!”
The only issue was that I have two flanks… so I’m currently painting up a second one 
I’m sure I’m not the only one with this idea but how cool would it be if you incorporated tracks and a working motor from a model train set for an army display board. Everyone else has their beautiful but static armies on display and here is the chorf entry with a couple ID’s chasing each other in and out of a tunnel. Now it’s punching above its weight class in the best hobby competition too.
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If the FW models were more readily avaliable I’d definetly consider motorising them, I always get entranced looking at the animation for the Skullcracker in TWW3
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I have had vile tide kill my steam tank. Thinks that it in about 12+ games
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Wierd thing is we can choose signature spell from the same lore but not hashut lore.
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Viletide cant kill a steamtank its s1
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That is not weird the lore of hashut is a different lore. Makes sense that you can choose from the lore you picked like always
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I wouldn’t have expected the outcome but tbh I like that it nerfs the Lore Familiar a bit.
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Its great wood elves really got it from all angles.
It does not make sense as the lore familiar says You choose spells and You can only replace one randomly generated spell for a signature spell. The ruling is n fact a new rule that allows choosing a spell that was not randomly generated.
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Can Khan join Black Orcs? I can not find any rule saying he can not.
Well, lore of Hashut allows to swap for a randomly generated spell but with lore familiar you don’t generate randomly but the item itself specifically mentions you can select the signature spell of the chosen lore, so RAW it all checks out. We already discussed this rule here in the forum before, so at least some people were playing like this all along.
Yes, nothing in the rules preventing this. But he has an incompatible base size so needs to sit as the side.
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Viletide could kill a Steam Tank if the tank was weakened by Dark Magi before, dropping its toughness, right?
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Thats some rotten luck for 12+ games, word of pain is a 10+ too.
Last game my Iron Demon was killed by an Orc boss on Wyvern after being weakened by nasty lucky poison archers. Took him only 2 rounds of cc, iirc.
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Would you say that it was a value-for-points distraction from busting up the rest of your army?
Question! The ID’s steam cannonade. It does not have the multiple shots special rule, but it does fire multiple times. I hadn’t really considered it, but does it get the -1 to hit with these shots?
Check out the wording for the bow of Loren, which similarly does not have the multiple shots special rule:
Like: why would it mention not getting a penalty for firing multiple times when it doesn’t even have that special rule?
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As you pointed out, it does not have the Multiple Shots special rule, so it does not have the modifier. The cannonade is just an organ gun, even if they did not just write it down like that. Organ gun does not have this wording either.
Why they put this text to the Bow of Loren is a separate issue. Maybe they were expecting people asking this otherwise.
Bottom line: don’t bother. If someone at one of those god-forsaken tournaments insists you get a -1, ask him to point to the text where it says the cannonade has Multiple Shots.
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