Oooh poop i need to read that.
Sure you cant choose them as a signature spell?
Im looking at dimensional pathway, rust and earthen rampant as well
Q: Can a Wizard with a Lore Familiar choose one of their factionâs signature spells instead of the signature spell of their chosen lore?
A: No.
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Yeah, itâs sad but not really a problem for me since all 4 spells I mentioned are very versatile and give great synergies to our army I think. There is nothing more satisfying than teleporting a fat brick of Blunderbusses right in front of a Dragon, putting some Plague of Rust on him and say, câmon!
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Fun combo i noticed on the lamassu:
Enchanted shield, its cheap. Gives a shield so 4+ save and since the lammasu makes attacks from magic weapons in to a non magic hand weapon so a 6++ ward will always come in.
Not as good as Talisman of protection 5++ but only 10 points and the extra armour is great
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Here is a list Iâm looking at for a slow grow campaign.
All thoughts and advice is welcome.
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Boss Sokhands Ironshrieker Wyvasu wolf [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs
++ Characters [876 pts] ++
Sorcerer-Prophet [355 pts]
- Darkforged weapon
- Heavy armour
- General
- Lammasu [Sorcerous Exhalation]
- Lore Familiar
- Enchanted Shield
- Elementalism
Black Orc Warboss [344 pts]
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Wyvern
- Trollhide Trousers
- Effigy of Mork
Hobgoblin Khan [92 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Throwing weapons
- Light armour
- Shield
- Shortbow (replaces throwing weapons)
- Giant Wolf
- Ruby Ring of Ruin
Daemonsmith Sorcerer [85 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- On foot
- Dark Magic
++ Core Units [504 pts] ++
10 Infernal Guard [208 pts]
- Fireglaives
- Heavy armour
- Shield
- Deathmask
- Standard bearer [Ashen Banner]
- Musician
13 Black Orc Mob [236 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Stubborn
- 1x Great weapon
- 12x Additional hand weapon
- Boss
- Standard bearer [Da Angry Ladz Flag]
- Musician
10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [30 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [30 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
++ Special Units [550 pts] ++
1 Iron Daemon [310 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
- Hand weapons
- Hellbound
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
++ Rare Units [70 pts] ++
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders [70 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Cavalry spears
- Light armour
- Shields
- Shortbow
- Reserve Move (0-1 per 1000 points)
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I could swap the lore familiar for mantle of stone or level 4 then go with deamonology for combat
I dont think you are allowed shields on sorcerers sadly
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I could be wrong but
Its a magic item, doesnât say it Enchants a shield or requires a shield to be taken, so should be fine?
Damn you are right 
Magic armour
Only a mode lthat is equipped with (or that has the option to be equipped with) armour, a shield or barding may purchase a magical equivalent. A model can only wear a single suit of armour and can only carry one shield, and a mount can only wear a single suit of barding. Therefore, magic armour replaces any mundane equivalent the model is, or may be, equipped with.
Whats your thoughts on this list?
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Boss Sokhands Ironshrieker Wyvasu wolf [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs
++ Characters [876 pts] ++
Sorcerer-Prophet [360 pts]
- Darkforged weapon
- Heavy armour
- Level 4 Wizard
- General
- Lammasu
- Mantle of Stone
- Daemonology
Black Orc Warboss [344 pts]
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Wyvern
- Trollhide Trousers
- Effigy of Mork
Hobgoblin Khan [87 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Throwing weapons
- Shortbow (replaces throwing weapons)
- Giant Wolf
- Ruby Ring of Ruin
Daemonsmith Sorcerer [85 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Heavy armour
- On foot
- Dark Magic
++ Core Units [504 pts] ++
10 Infernal Guard [208 pts]
- Fireglaives
- Heavy armour
- Shield
- Deathmask
- Standard bearer [Ashen Banner]
- Musician
13 Black Orc Mob [236 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Stubborn
- 1x Great weapon
- 12x Additional hand weapon
- Boss
- Standard bearer [Da Angry Ladz Flag]
- Musician
10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [30 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [30 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
++ Special Units [550 pts] ++
1 Iron Daemon [310 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
- Hand weapons
- Hellbound
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
++ Rare Units [70 pts] ++
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders [70 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Cavalry spears
- Light armour
- Shields
- Shortbow
- Reserve Move (0-1 per 1000 points)
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I would never leave home with a lammasu without its breath weapon. The Mace tail is debatable but the breath weapon is about the strongest in the game for just 15 points. When you hit your first unit of heavy cav in the flank with it you will know what I mean (preferrably with Plague of Rust on them, too).
The list looks ok but for 10 IG you really donât need the Ashen Banner. You can shave off some points from that unit to buff up the Black Orks.
And give your Warboss at least a shield. In a competitive environment you will need this 2+ save against poison shooting. You can give him the Enchanted Shield for a 2+/6++/5++
The Demonsmith is nice but you will have an 18" bubble on the Lammasu anyway so you could shave him off as well. Better invest in some Sneaky Gits or some more Hobgoblins.
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I was toying around with some lists for an upcoming event end of june and need to practice with a few units and tactics. Only got a few games with Chorfs undrr my belt so fa and need more experience.
Iâve had good success so far with: Blunderbusses, Lammasu, Hobgoblin Khan with Ruby Ring, Sneaky Gits, 10 man Hobgoblin darts, Blorc on Wyvern.
Mixed experiences with: Iron Demon, Fireglaives, Infernal Ironsworn, Deathshriekers, Bolt Throwers.
Bad experience so far with Castellan BSB, Sorcerer Prophet in Unit
Have not tried out yet: Bull Centaurs in any form, Dreadquakes, Hellcannon, Dark Magic.
Had better results with Elementalism so far, struggling with Demonology. Maybe the Wood Elf Player in me shines through here.
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One of my recent takes on a competitive list with some comp (max 400 points per unit, max 40 man big units, only 1 flying behemoth character, only 2 flying characters total) would look like this:
370 - Black Orc Warboss, Great Weapon, Shield, Black Orc Chariot, Standard Bearer, Great Weapon, Trollhide Trousers, âEadbuttinâ'At, Talisman Of Protection
96 - Hobgoblin Khan, Great Weapon, Shortbow, Shield, Light Armour, Giant Wolf, Ruby Ring of Ruin
455 - Sorcerer-Prophet, Darkforged Weapon, General, Lammasu, Mace Tail, Sorcerous Exhalation, Wizard Level 4, Elementalism, Armour of Destiny, Lore Familiar
108 - 6 Black Orc Mobs
⢠4x Black Orc, Great Weapon, Shield
⢠1x Black Orc, Great Weapon, Shield, Musician
⢠1x Black Orc, Great Weapon, Shield, Boss, Stubborn
30 - 10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shortbow
30 - 10 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shortbow
400 - 19 Infernal Guard, Hailshot Blunderbusses, Shield, Drilled, Deathmask, Standard Bearer, Razor Standard, Musician
120 - Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher
120 - Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher
66 - 10 Sneaky Gits, Musician
66 - 10 Sneaky Gits, Musician
60 - 10 Sneaky Gits
76 - 5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders, Cavalry Spear, Shortbow, Reserve Move, Musician
1997 total
In this build I want to try out the Blorc on Chariot to keep him safer from mass poison shooting. Also lots of gits to screen, shoot off chaff. Armour of Destiny hurts pointswise but a 4++ means a lot against shooting. And if a cannonball or 40 poison shots hit you that Mantle of Stone is gonna do nothing.
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Yeah i agree about the flame breath and Elementalism (rust and dimensional pathways) which means dropping something to get lore Familiar to get get the right spell.
Apart of the slow grow campaign is needing 4 characters so cant drop the deamonsmith and can keep him with the artillery firing missiles would be best.
I could swap him for a foot khan to sit in a hob gob blob?
Howa bout this
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Boss Sokhan Khan Ironshrieker Wyvasu wolf [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs
++ Characters [880 pts] ++
Sorcerer-Prophet [425 pts]
- Darkforged weapon
- Heavy armour
- Level 4 Wizard
- General
- Lammasu [Sorcerous Exhalation]
- Mantle of Stone
- Lore Familiar
- Armour of Meteoric Iron
- Elementalism
Black Orc Warboss [319 pts]
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Wyvern
- Trollhide Trousers
- Enchanted Shield
Hobgoblin Khan [89 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Throwing weapons
- Shield
- Shortbow (replaces throwing weapons)
- Giant Wolf
- Ruby Ring of Ruin
Hobgoblin Khan [47 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Throwing weapons
- Shortbow (replaces throwing weapons)
- On foot
++ Core Units [500 pts] ++
10 Infernal Guard [160 pts]
- Fireglaives
- Heavy armour
- Shield
13 Black Orc Mob [236 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Stubborn
- 1x Great weapon
- 12x Additional hand weapon
- Boss
- Standard bearer [Da Angry Ladz Flag]
- Musician
29 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [104 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
- Boss (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician
++ Special Units [550 pts] ++
1 Iron Daemon [310 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
- Hand weapons
- Hellbound
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [120 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand weapons
- Heavy armour
++ Rare Units [70 pts] ++
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders [70 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Cavalry spears
- Light armour
- Shields
- Shortbow
- Reserve Move (0-1 per 1000 points)
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Bringing two death shrieker rockets is awesome. I would bring an engineer to get the re-roll.
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Oh, in case you need a 4th character just stick with a lvl 1 or 2, maybe with Dark Magic to Doombolt around while staying back.
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Lammasu can no use shields.
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We know now thank you