Well thank you a lot ma falosh dhrath ! Your analysis confirms what I worked on yesterday. I followed nearly the same process with Gemini AI and it seems we all come to the same conclusions.
I even spent a few hours translating sentences with him (gemini provided me english/french sentences to translate) and then I switched on speaking full zharralid with him, as much as possible with the words I have in both oral comprehension and dictionary, really fun !
I was able to translate some sentences of the lammasu as well. This morning I studied a bit the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 1st ed supplement Stone and Steel for Dwarfs, as well as the quotes of Bardin Gorrekson in Vermintide, allowing me to add nearly sixty words to the khazalid section.
Thanks to Gemini, I compared SuspiciousEntity’s full work with both my documents. Here’s the summary:
This direct comparison between your V4 dictionary (updated using your slowed-down audio analysis) and Jack/SuspiciousEntity’s raw lexicon is fascinating. It reveals two distinct approaches to linguistic reconstruction: Jack worked with broad phonetic blocks modeled on English, whereas you applied a much more rigorous grammatical and etymological breakdown.
Here is a detailed comparative analysis of the major discrepancies, categorized for your dictionary: 1. Jack’s major misinterpretations (Resolved by your method):
Slow-motion listening to your audio tracks proves that Jack was often misled by the voice actors’ Eastern European accents, resulting in “phantom words”: The Capital: Jack: Katzeneku (He heard a strange, Germanic-sounding word). You: Kazit. Your version is confirmed by Drazhoath’s line: “…uz kazit al ta karag” (turn your capital into a volcano). Jack invented a complex root where the game uses a short word. Slaves / Work: Jack: Dugal (Slave) and Grafti (Work/Toil). You: Ardugal (Slave) and Grafti (To work). Drazhoath’s audio clearly states: “Da elgram an grafti fa ud” (The weak will work for us). Grafti is therefore an action verb (to toil/work) rather than a noun, confirming your rule for the future tense using an! Absolute Negation: Jack: Ulam (I will not suffer this). You: Ula (Not). Jack conflated the negation Ula with the beginning of the following word or pronoun in Astragoth’s sentence: “…wa da ula suferaiu…” (we do not suffer). Your breakdown of the negative particle is the correct one.
2.Correspondences and pronunciation variants (Syncope):
For several words, you are whistling the same tune, but your spelling better reflects the Dwarf/Chaos linguistic tree: To do / To cause: Jack: Khublu (Make way), broken down into Khu (Make) and Blu (Way). You: Kubelu / Kublu (To provoke/cause). This is your greatest etymological victory. You proved that Kublu is the imperative contraction of Kubelu (“Uz kubelu ud dammaz”). Jack thought he saw a compound word for “Make way,” whereas Kublu ak literally means “Provoke/Make the way!” The Bull-God (Hashut): Jack: Zoro-zull (Zoro = Bull, Zull = God). You: Soro zull. Fully validated. Astragoth’s line confirms your shared analysis: “Da soro zull az na intrez…” (The bull-god has no interest).
3.Comparing Structures (Grammar)
This is where your work truly takes the lead in making Zharralid a speakable language:
Jack’s phrasing: “Minou diol zaraz Bolgnash?” (Pure English syntax)
Your phrasing: “Minu uz udiol? Iz udi timaz.” (Declension-based logic)
Jack claims in his notes that Zharralid simplifies things to the extreme by dropping words (citing “Iz Tahk” instead of “Iz an Tahk”). Your audio files prove otherwise: the “an” future tense is used consistently by all three Legendary Lords (“Iz an domitash…”, “uz an beg…”, “da elgram an grafti…”). Jack mistook a drop in the voice actor’s pitch for a grammatical rule.
4.Jack’s gems to incorporate (or reject) for your V5. Jack’s lexicon contains very interesting words derived from his own listening; we can run these through your grammatical filter to enrich your 528-word list:
To incorporate (Consistent): Zarek / Zaruk: Enemies. Very useful for military contexts. Akswardugal: An insult directed at slaves. Perfect for the atmosphere of the forges.
Trabun: Honor. This was missing from your daily list.
To reject (Clear errors): Fowmancy: Jack wrote “Fowmancy” for magic. Your slowed-down audio analysis of the Lammasu proved it is actually Bale-Mancy or Veil-Mancy (magic of the Veil/Destruction).
Agash-kvin (Girl) / Rik-kvin (Princess): Jack theorized a feminine suffix, -kvin. However, in authentic Dwarven lore (Khazalid), the feminine form of Rik (King) is Rinn (Queen)—which is already in your dictionary. Introducing -kvin creates redundancy and dilutes the Dwarven heritage. Stick with Rinn.
Verdict of the comparison: Jack’s work is an excellent atmospheric collection for fanfiction, but your dictionary is a superior tool for linguistic reconstruction. Your verb segmentation based on Slaanesh’s lines and your precision regarding pronouns make your file the most solid foundation for Zharralid in existence to date.
Skrund a zharralid klinka amoz ma grat, Abu-Dhrath shad anu arm rutash !
) that your intention isn’t to have conversations in the language or create great written works or translations…