[TOW] Let's get competitive

Id be murdering those swordmasters from afar asap. Dont charge them unless with alot of impact hits as they will hit you 1st in 2 ranks. Wipe them out

If you can squeeze Daemonic familiar on something that you intend to put up against the dragon - that can really help get the wounds through

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You don’t want to be in close combat with the Star Dragon. I think, the only unit who can fight with him are the blunderbuss with stand an shoot. But the high elf player will not go in this combat.

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What do you think about the new items for our chaos dwarfs ?

The (Icon of Fortitude 35pts. Immune to Multiple Wounds. Infantry/Cavalry only) should be good for our Taur’ruk. With mantel of stone, Enchanted Shield and great weapon he looks fine for me.

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I can force him to a degree but the problem is he has speed and punch adventage…

I love this one. I will try it for sure. Great tool against cannon spam! And the throwing sword (what a stupid idea lol).

Banner od swirling wind is a better ashen banner.

No stops is also great choice for infantry like IG.

Tomek od spellcraft on key spells is great.

When did the magic items get updated?

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They will be updated in the upcoming Arcane Journal Razing of the Westerlands, but the rules have been leaked.

I didnt know about this either. ..

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Gotta be on your toes, fellas! You snooze, you loose :wink:

I’m excited to try the Monster Hunter Tapestry too. I think it’s a clear winner on a block of IG with great weapons. The problem is that the black orcs, Ironsworn and Blunderblock all have great banners already. Might be work throwing a BSB in with the no-stomp banner.

the other item I’m very excited about is the Trailblazers Haubruk for the Khan on foot joining a sneaky git mob. First, it lets him move through cover (which honestly means I was playing it wrong before because he should have been slowing down the Gitz before). And importantly gives him the option to scout and make the enemy think carefully about lone wizards and war machine. Plus a 4+ AS with a shield isn’t bad!

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Yes there is actually a decent amount of content in this new Arcane Journal … can’t wait to see how the new items will work.

I’ll playtest this next Christmas. Armies will converge underneath the Christmas tree.

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Had my Chorfs out for their first 2 day event last weekend! The new items where not allowed yet, sadly :frowning:

The list was a bit of a mix, tried out 2 DSR and Infernal Guard with Fireglaives. The Rocketlaunchers performed kinda ok, but not too great, the Fireglaives just sucked in nearly every situation.

The rest of the List was a Khan in 39 Hobgoblins, who did quite well, an Iron Demon, which did good, 10 Sneaky Gits who where awesome, 5 Wolfriders with a Khan with RubyRing (the unit itself was good, but the Ring sucks now) and a Tauruk with T7, who did quite some work as well.

My takeaway is to go back to Blunderbusses. With the new Tome of Spellcraft, Elementalism should be more consistent again and with the new banners there are nice options. Not really sold on warmachines yet, will go with double ID next event. The Staff of Quietude looks awesome against Vamps and Khemri but it requires a second caster … not sure on that.

Lammasu and Bull will stay at home I guess, want to go for 2 big bricks of Hobgoblins for better scoring. (1 just gets shot to pieces over the course of the game)

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I played my freshly painted chorfs in a tournament a couple of weeks ago. it did’t go all that well (1-5,3-3,5-1) but on the positive side, the infantry units are absolute bricks and very hard to remove - although the Ironsworn rolled not-so-great dices!; the dreadquake is nice, very resilient vs skirmishers and light ambushers units and even managed to kill the khorne demon engine (the big mechanical guy) with a lucky multiple wounds roll and finish off a warpfire dragon.

The hobgoblin were nice, they actually survived all three games! very useful and even managed to inflict a couple of wounds on dragons here and there.

The sorceror on bull i think it worked, it’s a pretty big points sink but with the demonic familiar did wonders vs Chaos demons and the warpfire dragon. He died in the first game vs the empires, as the other guy had like 3 cannons there was no hope sadly. I have to say though that Ibasically lost the first game by not moving on the the scoring hill immediately, leaving it for way to long to the opponend who ended up scoring 900 pts from it (which was basically his pts delta). So more an error on my part than anything else!

this was the list btw:

Cd torneo [1998 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs, Open War

Sorcerer-Prophet, Darkforged weapon, Heavy armour, Wizard [Level 4 Wizard], General, Bale Taurus, Daemonic Familiar, Mantle of Stone, Talisman of Protection, Daemonology - 485
20 Infernal Guard, Hailshot blunderbuss, Heavy armour, Shield, Drilled, Full Command - 378
39 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shortbows, Full Command - 134
20 Infernal Ironsworn, Halberds, Full plate armour, Shield, Standard bearer [The Lammasu’s Beard], Full Command - 506
Iron Daemon, Steam Cannonade, Hellbound - 310
Dreadquake Mortar, Dreadquake Mortar, Heavy armour, Ogre Loader - 185

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How did the blunders do?

How does Lammasu works for You? I work on a similar list but with Tau’ruk not a 2nd flyer but I am not sure what I like better.

I will be playing in a team event with renegades allowed. This is my initial idea. I am not sure if a power scroll or Tome of spellcraft is a better choice… Anyone tested the second one?

Renegade [2027 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs, Renegade, Grand Melee + Combined Arms

Infernal Castellan, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, General, Bale Taurus, 2x Mantle of Stone, Talisman of Protection - 384
Daemonsmith Sorcerer, Darkforged weapon, Heavy armour, Wizard [Level 2 Wizard], On foot, Power Scroll, Tome of Spellcraft, Daemonology - 175
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shields, Boss (champion) - 67
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shields - 60
20 Infernal Guard, Hailshot blunderbuss, Heavy armour, Shield, Drilled, Deathmask (champion) [Hellshard], Full Command - 398
12 Sneaky Gits, Two hand weapons, Throwing weapons, Murder Boss (champion), Musician - 84
Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower, Bolt thrower, Light armour - 45
Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower, Bolt thrower, Light armour - 45
Iron Daemon, Steam Cannonade - 275
Iron Daemon, Steam Cannonade - 275
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk, Great weapon, Heavy armour, Charmed Shield, Healing Potion, Mantle of Stone - 219


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Hi @MiSiO this looks very solid. Two questions/thoughts: the re-roll on the spell probably needs to be thought for storm of ash: the lvl 3-4 for goes from a 58% chance to an 82% chance whereas the lvl 1-2 will bump up from a 41 to 66% chance, which is decent margin improvement for both, but depends on how reliable you need it to be I guess.

other than that, do you not want the razor standard on the blunderblock? For me the AB has always been the way I get work done.

Hi everyone, thinking of building a full send list for tournament at end of January. I was tempted to drop my Lamassu altogether but I really like the model and figured it could be another target saturation model that could throw out a steed of shadows. Basically the idea that everything in this army can move fast.

Thoughts?

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++ Characters [977 pts] ++
Infernal Castellan [384 pts]
(Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, General, Bale Taurus, Talisman of Protection, 2x Mantle of Stone)

Daemonsmith Sorcerer [240 pts]
(Hand weapon, Heavy armour, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], Lammasu [Mace tail], Armour of Meteoric Iron, Lore Familiar, Daemonology)

Black Orc Bigboss [214 pts]
(Great weapon, Full plate armour, Boar Chariot, Trollhide Trousers, Charmed Shield)

Hobgoblin Khan [72 pts]
(Hand weapon, Great weapon, Light armour, Ranged weapon [Throwing weapons], On foot, Charmed Shield, Obsidian Vambraces)

Hobgoblin Khan [67 pts]
(Hand weapon, Throwing weapons, Great weapon, Light armour, Giant Wolf, Charmed Shield)

++ Core Units [501 pts] ++
20 Black Orc Mob [405 pts]
(Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Stubborn, Veteran, 10x Shields, 11x Great weapon, Boss [The Collar of Zorga + Charmed Shield], Standard bearer [The Big Red Raggedy Flag], Musician)

28 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [96 pts]
(Hand weapons, Shortbows, Boss (champion), Musician)

++ Special Units [84 pts] ++
12 Sneaky Gits [84 pts]
(Two hand weapons, Throwing weapons, Murder Boss (champion), Musician)

++ Rare Units [437 pts] ++
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk [154 pts]
(Great weapon, Heavy armour, Charmed Shield)

Bull Centaur Taur’ruk [189 pts]
(Great weapon, Heavy armour, Charmed Shield, Icon of Fortitude)

5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders [94 pts]
(Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Light armour, Shields, Shortbow, Feigned Flight (0-1 per 1000 points), Reserve Move (0-1 per 1000 points), Boss (champion), Musician)


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Forgot to add Razer banner :smiley:

Sadly You can not pick Lore of Hashut with Lore Familiar…

DM Krakowa, #1 [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs, Renegade, Grand Melee + Combined Arms

Infernal Castellan, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, General, Bale Taurus, 2x Mantle of Stone, Talisman of Protection - 384
Daemonsmith Sorcerer, Darkforged weapon, Heavy armour, Wizard [Level 2 Wizard], On foot, Lore Familiar, Power Scroll, Daemonology - 175
Hobgoblin Khan, Great weapon, Ranged weapon [Throwing weapons], Giant Wolf, Ruby Ring of Ruin - 94
19 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shields, Boss (champion) - 64
20 Infernal Guard, Hailshot blunderbuss, Heavy armour, Shield, Drilled, Deathmask (champion) [Hellshard], Standard bearer [Razor Standard], Full Command - 438
11 Sneaky Gits, Two hand weapons, Throwing weapons, Murder Boss (champion), Musician - 78
Iron Daemon, Steam Cannonade - 275
Iron Daemon, Steam Cannonade - 275
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk, Great weapon, Heavy armour, Shield, Healing Potion, Mantle of Stone - 217


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Updated IG with razer standard. Also Not sure what is better. 2 bolt throwers OR Khan… Same points.

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