Nothing against your list Misio, but who broke the rules to let slaves run without Chorf enforcers? I know it’s legal, but it feels lore broken…
Just my opinion, not meant to insult anyone…
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Chorfs are smart. They fight their wars with others’ hands. There is just one Castellan to supervise those slaves. Of and there is an Iron Daemon driver!
I have been using Blunderbussess as my core infantry BUT this is way overpriced. I do have a version of that list with Ironsworn but I do not have them painted yet (just got AoS Infernal Cohort models to build and convert!)
Maybe with the new renegade devastator … their price tag is way more reasonnable. Let’s wait and see the final draft
Today I used this list. I wanted to try triple T7 build with prophet and two iron daemons. I also used infernal guards with fire sticks and they menaged surprisingly well - with castellan, they killed a giant and won combat vs black ork warbass on wyvern!
Overall list working well by killing some stuff and not giving points.
There is option to change infernal guards and castellan to black orks with warboss, but I’m not sure what is stronger.
2x Iron daemon [2000 pts]
Chaos Dwarfs · Chaos Dwarfs Renegades V2
Characters [631 pts]
Sorcerer-Prophet [470 pts]
- Hand Weapon
- Heavy Armour
- Darkforged Weapon
- Arcane Items
- Tome of Spellcraft
- Talismans
- Mantle of Stone
- Talisman of Protection
- Bale Taurus
- Wizard Level 4
- Daemonology
- General
- Magic Armour
Castellan [161 pts]
- Hand Weapon
- Heavy Armour
- Magic Armour
- Bedazzling Helm
- Enchanted Items
- Obsidian Vambraces
- Great Weapon
- Shield
- Pistol
Core [504 pts]
21 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [101 pts]
- Hand Weapon
- Shield
- Light Armour
- Boss
- Standard Bearer
- Musician
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders [70 pts]
- Giant Wolf
- Hand Weapon
- Light Armour
- Shield
- Cavalry Spear
- Feigned Flight
18 Infernal Guard [333 pts]
- Hand Weapon
- Heavy Armour
- Shield
- Fireglaive
- Drilled
- Deathmask
- Standard Bearer
- Musician
- Monster Hunter’s Tapestry
- Hellshard
- Veteran
Special [865 pts]
Iron Daemon [310 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
- Hellbound
Iron Daemon [275 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [110 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand Weapon
- Light Armour
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher [110 pts]
- Demolition Rockets
- Infernal Incendiaries
- Hand Weapon
- Light Armour
10 Sneaky Gits [60 pts]
- Two Hand Weapons
- Throwing Weapon
Created with Ingude
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Castellan + Vembrances + Great weapon ? That’s S8 right here right ?
Looks like a very strong list. I’ll be sure to take some inspiration from it.
Yup. He has also option to use shield if needed so he has 2+ armor save and -1 to hit. What hurts it’s only WS6. This build works best when he fights with something with equal or lower WS so -1/-2 (with storm of ash) to hit is most valuable.
Last battle he held black ork warboss with gw and triple save in challenge. With storm of ash from prophet, he lost only 1 wound. Infernal guards gave enough static CR so I won combat. They also killed a giant in one turn but it’s another story 
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Od new Renegade pack official??
Noo, it’s not. We are playing draft only when opponent agree. There is a chance we accept it in our community, but we need to test it at first.
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This is what I fear. Changes are very extensive. They might not be accepted by the community as a whole.
It will be case by case I guess, in my local scene some VC player very vocally said they wouldn’t play the new draft for VC.
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Because it’s a nerf, that’s why
It’s generally very good question. Are draft changes gone too far in Your opinion? I mean in CHD list and others.
From my side I appreciate more variety in list building.
- Machines are far better now (rocket launcher are maybe too cheap)
- Infernal Guards with fire glaives aren’t total waste of points now
- Bull renders with additional attack look more reasonable, but I had no opportunity to try them
- I want to try use chd warriors and decimators. I think they will be good objectives oriented units
- Not sure about fighting heroes shenanigans. All 3 heroes are really good. But did they needed this change?
- Kdai firebirds: didn’t use either l, but they look rather weak
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New Heroes are wierd but I do like changes to Centaurs.
Decimators are interesting too..l like them. Spadły no banner option.
VC for nerfed do I can see why people objects lol im generał this is how it is going to be…
Shields on IS or BO - Parry with pull plate+ shields does nothing so I guess the idea is to get 3+ save va shooting, right?
Charging with Taur’ruk - he is like a skirmish model? We pivot him into direction of a charge and then measure the rolled charge distance?
Is a wizard better than combat flying hero?
Is lammasu’s beard not a better option with 2 Iron daemons? This list looks like one with slow, deadly błocko with IDs on flanks. Extra ward feels great.
Yah just against shooting. Similar to black orcs here.
And yes 360 change for the Taur’ruk which is Very gooood!
Wizard is more versatile option for sure. He can be usefully in many ways, I mean support spells, magic missiles, -ld hex vs big infantry bricks, war machines reroll (in 18 inches!). In combat he is ok. With daemonic vaesel even very good.
Combat character is good… In combat. And that’s it.
To take lamasu beard banner I need to take Infernal Ironsforn in place of Infernal guard, but it’s impossible with prophet as a general. Other option is to change castellan to despot bsb with beard banner but it’s much worse combat character.
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What I ment is how You measure distance when You charge. You pivot, then measure charge distance? His base is not square…
With new chanelling rules a caster can be a better option with Storm of Ash! Unless he just… Explodes.
Ah yes I know what you mean now. I play it that way where he can effectively get a bit of extra distance from the rotation if you think about going from 25mm to 37.5mm from the centre comparing short vs wide directions of the base. I usually bring this up with the opponent and see what they’re comfortable with before you roll it.
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=== This Is my monster army for tournament on czech republic for next month
Rules are higlander: same unit of core 0-2
0-1 char,speciál,rare unit , 0-1 same type of mounted monster
Renegade [2300 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Chaos Dwarfs, Renegade, Open War
++ Characters [875 pts] ++
Sorcerer-Prophet [265 pts]
- Darkforged weapon
- Heavy armour
- Wizard [Level 4 Wizard]
- On foot
- Lore Familiar
- Daemonology
Infernal Castellan [388 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- General
- Bale Taurus
- Cackling Blade
- Charmed Shield
- Mantle of Stone
Infernal Seneschal [222 pts]
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Great Taurus
- Charmed Shield
- Mantle of Stone
++ Core Units [611 pts] ++
17 Infernal Ironsworn [460 pts]
- Great weapons
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Overseer (champion)
- Standard bearer [The Lammasu’s Beard]
- Musician
19 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [74 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
- Boss (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats [77 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shortbows
- Boss (champion)
- Standard bearer
- Musician
++ Special Units [370 pts] ++
Iron Daemon [310 pts]
- Steam Cannonade
- Hand weapons
- Hellbound
10 Sneaky Gits [60 pts]
- Two hand weapons
- Throwing weapons
++ Rare Units [444 pts] ++
Chaos Giant [230 pts]
- Giant’s club
- Heavy armour (scaly skin)
- Regeneration (6+)
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk [214 pts]
- Great weapon
- Heavy armour
- Charmed Shield
- 2x Mantle of Stone
Created with “Old World Builder”
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Some remarks:
- I prefer castellan in other build
- Infernal Castellan [384 pts]
-# (Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Bale Taurus, Talisman of Protection, Daemonic Familiar, Mantle of Stone) - In this way he has less but much stronger attack especially vs enemy lord characters.
- Infernal Castellan [384 pts]
- Maybe You can fit BSB for Saneshal. Perfectly with war banner for better static CR
- I’m not sure about giant. But have no idea what could be better
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